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149: Love Over Fear: A Journey from Anxiety to Empowerment

Hannah Andersen and Sara Swanson Season 3 Episode 47

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Fear once dictated our lives, holding us captive in corporate jobs that we hated, without boundaries in our relationships, and choosing the "safe" route rather than taking the risks that aligned us with our true potential. What happened when we decided to lead with love instead? All of the possibilities opened up for us. Entrepreneurship, self-love, meaningful relationships built on respect and understanding, & an abundant life.

The mantra of LOVE OVER FEAR has reshaped our perspectives and empowered us to live with more abundance, joy, and purpose.  In this episode, we share our personal journeys of shifting away from fear-based mindsets—whether it's fear of the future, fear of failure, or fear of disappointing others. We explore how deeply ingrained fears can block our path, keeping us stuck in outdated cycles of self-doubt and anxiety, and reveal the processes we use to transition to a love-driven life. 

We also unpack the difference between love-based and fear-based mindsets and share practical insights on how to make the switch in your own life. For example, how do we shift from a victim mindset into a creator mindset. Fear isn’t always an obvious sensation. Sometimes it’s subtle and shows up as self-censorship or an inability to speak one’s truth. Fear can be hidden in everyday actions, like avoiding difficult conversations or fearing judgment, and how these subconscious fears can hold us back in subtle but powerful ways. 

From everyday scenarios to bigger life changes, we talk about making conscious choices to approach situations with love, openness, and curiosity rather than defaulting to the worst-case scenarios (can you relate?). Plus, we dive into the 'Karpman Drama Triangle' and how fear-based roles like victim, persecutor, and rescuer can hold us back—and how adopting love-based mindsets can help us break free. 

Some of our favorite tools for shifting from fear to love:

  • Creating Awareness: Regularly check in with your thoughts and notice if fear or love is driving your decisions.
  • Reframing Thoughts: Challenge yourself to consider the best-case scenario instead of defaulting to fear-based thinking.
  • Patience and Compassion: Give yourself grace and understand that overcoming fear is a journey, not a quick fix.

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Speaker 1:

Hello everyone, Welcome back to your favorite podcast, Mindfully Moody, with your favorite podcasters, Hannah and Sarah, and we are so excited that you are joining us here for another episode.

Speaker 1:

If you do not subscribe to the podcast, stop what you're doing right now, wherever you are listening, and go follow us on Apple Spotify so that you can stay up to date on all of our new episodes, which we release every Wednesday morning. And today we are going to talk about something that has been really relevant in both of our journeys, which is leading with love over fear. This is such a consistent mantra in my life. It changed my life, this concept changed my life, and it's so simple, yet so incredibly powerful. So, with everything going on right now in the collective it's November 6th as we record this I feel like this is such a perfect episode to bring to everyone, because it's going to allow you to understand how to get into that frequency of love and why there is more just empowerment and abundance and joy in that frequency versus leaning into fear-based thoughts, patterns and actions. So let's get into it.

Speaker 2:

Love over fear. Baby, as you're talking about that, I'm just reflecting back so much on my life and how many moments I've been so paralyzed and stuck in fear fear of the future, fear of the past, fear of the unknown and that fear, just like, steals the peace. It steals the peace from the present moment and, yeah, it takes so much work to get out of that fear and to rewire that fear. Um, yeah, where is there specific you know examples where this fear is showing up, that you are wanting to alchemize into love?

Speaker 1:

yeah, it's so interesting because I felt like I took a lot of steps forward and I have and I have in this aspect, because I feel that I used to lead with fear almost in every single thing that I did.

Speaker 1:

Even though I was an outwardly loving person, internally I was being really overpowered by the fear that I felt around my career, my worthiness, how I was showing up in the world, how people were viewing me, how I was showing up, related to my purpose. So I felt like fear was such a driver in my life and, as I've worked a lot to bring the idea of love and the frequency of love into my life, that has shifted many things. And now, with what I'm going through in my life, I feel like I'm having a revisiting of okay, this is starting to show up for me a little bit more where I have fear of. I'm going to say, the biggest fear in my life right now is which we're actually going to talk in more depth about in another episode but disappointing the people that I love and like fear of being in misalignment with things in my life and how that will, I don't know just kind of control where I end up and where I go next yeah what about you?

Speaker 2:

well, it's interesting to think about because, as we're talking about this, like I feel like I've really worked so much on regulating my nervous system so I'm not so much in fear because I spent my like, like literally probably 95% of my life just like driven by fear, driven by anxiety, and I think I've I've spent so much time with that mantra fear over love working towards recognizing where that fear shows up that I almost got to a place where I wasn't as much in this fear state. But that also could be because I've been in this like repetitive cycle of like getting to the person that I want to be and like living the life that I want to live and like de-shutting of the things that don't feel aligned and don't feel healed within me so that fear comes up in a different way. It's like almost like my day-to-day life, I've gotten rid of the things that caused me that fear and anxiety, because I didn't want to live with that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, iterated through the process of we're like, okay, I feel like I'm on a path, smooth, like smooth sailing almost. But that's interesting because it's like, maybe I that means I'm ready for a leveling up, maybe I'm not pushing myself enough Like I've been, so in my comfort zone lately, in my zone of genius, that like that I'm not having things as much that are scaring me. So, you know, thinking about you, and you know the pregnancy and like this initiation to becoming a mom, like that's a new version of you. So, of course, there's these new fears that are coming up, right, because it's a whole new life. And so I'm thinking about myself and like, what is it maybe that I need to do? Not that I want to cause fear in my life, but like it's an interesting concept of like, if you're not feeling fear, are you growing?

Speaker 1:

I don't know, not that I want to feel fear, but you know okay, I have a different kind of take on this, though, because I feel like or a different let me put something different in the mix of an idea, because I think everyone is at a different stage of their journey.

Speaker 1:

Right, there are going to be people who are the past versions of us. You know the past versions of us who were driven by fear, subconsciously and consciously. Like you know, it was taking over your life in kind of every sort of way, Like you actively felt scared, consciously, but also like your actions were showing like everything was just like hi, I'm in fear. And then, you know, you start to kind of dissect that which we can take people through, kind of the process that we went through and how we got to the point that we are at. But I feel like, as you start to shift out of that maybe daily fear, because I feel the same way I don't have a lot of things in my daily life that are like bringing up fear, but on the other hand, subconsciously, I still feel that I act in fear but don't recognize it in the same way as I did in my younger life yeah so, even though it's like, okay, I need to like bring things in to scare myself, it's also like how are we still showing up in fear?

Speaker 1:

because fear isn't only like oh my god, I'm so scared to like go and like publicly speak right now in front of this group of people, which is like what we think of a fear, as you know but it's also like I'm not speaking my truth in X, y and Z situation, because I have fear that this person is not going to like what I have to say. Therefore, I will not be worthy and liked by another person. So it's like that's more where I'm starting to, I feel, see fear show up in my life again of like subconscious patterns, like it's like a layer deeper or two layers deeper, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, 100%. There can be like the physical feeling of fear that maybe there's something internally that you need to like heal from, but then there's like, yeah, this other concept of fear, this is getting very like esoteric but, like, like fear, and just how you live your like, live your life like.

Speaker 2:

Are you living in and making decisions from a fear-based mindset like? Is that driving the car right? Like? Is that driving the car right Like? Is fear driving the car or is love driving the car? So I like that, like the switch to that right Like, and it's a mindset shift of and a choice that, okay, I have two directions. I can go with these decisions that I have in life every single day, right Like running a business.

Speaker 2:

I have the choice to be in a fear-based mindset and think it's not going to work out, think of the worst case scenario, be in the victim mode like, be scared of the future.

Speaker 2:

Or I have the choice to be in a loving state and an abundant state and a love-based mindset of opportunity and excitement and joy. I think that is a big thing too, with why I think I've shifted out of that kind of fear-based lifestyle, because I was so focused in everyday life of focusing on what could go wrong, what the worst case scenario would be, and really shifting into that opening state of like. Okay, if I do this, actually, what is the best case scenario? What is the most loving case scenario. If I have to have this hard conversation with someone, why is my brain resorting that we're going to get in a huge fight and it's going to be a huge blow up? What if I was able to come from a loving heart, open perspective and say this conversation is going to bring us closer, I'm like owning my voice and my authentic self and how I feel, so that's going to be a more loving conversation in the end, you know, yeah, so there's so many different concepts in this one topic.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, fear is complex Because you can have, like I'll give an example of you know, I think, what we were both in a fear, that we were both in for a long time, that A fear that we were both in for a long time, that some people, many people, many, many, many people are currently in which would be I have fear of leaving whatever job. I'm in, us both working in corporate America, whether you are fully aware of this or not, You're not fully aware of every fear that you have, which was like a kind of like hard thing for me to understand earlier in my journey. But you feel this quote unquote golden handcuffs experience. You know you feel okay, well, I have to stay at this job.

Speaker 1:

I don't like the job, I'm actually miserable doing it, I'm not happy here, but there's this fear that is keeping me here because I don't think that I have any other option. So I basically have become a victim to my career, you know, a victim to whatever company I work at, a victim to my circumstances, because I don't believe that anything else is possible for me. So like that is also a fear, like I'm not, and then that fear creates an inability to take action to change it, because the fear is blinding in a lot of ways, and I was just talking about this in therapy. Today there's this. Have you heard of this theory called the Cartman Triangle?

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 1:

It's like the fear-based mindsets that there's three fear-based mindsets and it's victim, persecutor and rescuer, and these are the fear-based mindsets. And then there are also, like love-based mindsets, that they're trying to, you know, counter you into the counterparts, the love-based counterparts. But so many of us live in those mindsets, you know. I mean so much of our world lives in a victim mindset, which is such a fear-based place to be.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

It kind of reminds me of like parts work where it's like that that can be a part of you Like okay, yeah, it's maybe natural to be in fear because that's how you were raised.

Speaker 2:

Your subconscious, that's just one part of you. In the same universe there can be another part of you who choose love, a loving route, and it's like how I think the challenging part about shifting when you're in these moments of fear is like it's hard to just snap out of it, like that you know and say like okay, one, I have the awareness which we always talk about. Right, Creating that awareness that that fear is there, that there's an uncomfortable experience that your body and your nervous system is having, and how can you have that awareness and then shift it right? So maybe we can talk about some ways that we've stepped into that shifting, or like creating that awareness and then shifting from fear into love, because that's such a process, you know, a lot of times it's not just like the snap of your fingers and like, okay, from fear to love, to love. There I am Like what are some ways you know in your life that you work through this process of shifting, shifting into the different part?

Speaker 1:

It really is such a process, because rewiring the fear that we were taught is challenging. So I think the first thing is that I've been really patient with myself and I continue to be patient with myself and give myself grace. So I would just encourage anyone who is listening to this right now and feels like, wow, I do live in a deep fear-based mindset, I'm scared of a lot of things and I think my actions are, you know, playing out these fears and playing out fears that I don't even know that I have. For me, it's been such a awareness-led process, like the concept of being in a victim mindset, you know like, and that was one that I so much existed in and this was a big catalyst for me, realizing that that was not bringing me love, that was not me reflecting on oh my gosh, this person did me wrong or this happened and poor me, and woe is me. And being in that negativity spiral, drama spiral that I existed in was not serving me, and I think that that's the first thing of someone that's trying to shift out of this. It's like does it feel good to be in that place? I don't think anyone is going. Hell yeah, feels great, I love it, it's empowering.

Speaker 1:

So like being aware of how often you spend time in those thought patterns, how often you exist in that place and then starting to try to transition. How can you bring more love, change that frequency, change that dynamic to? I am not the victim of my life, I'm the creator of my life. Okay, I'm unhappy that this thing happened to me, or I'm unhappy that I handled something this way. How can I, rather than lean into that place of a victim, how can I lean into the place of love and just literally start playing with that concept in your mind? You know, yes, there are a million tools that you can use to do this. But even just starting to envision and think about, like, how could I give myself a little bit of love here? Okay, I know that I did the best that I could. I know that. You know, maybe if I could go back and do it differently, I would have done it differently, but it already happened, you know. And starting to just be more, more aware.

Speaker 2:

I think is such a pivotal first step because it's the step to changing anything yeah, yeah, I think that that repetitive practice of just choosing a different narrative is like even if you don't act on that narrative that you're choosing like just shifting it in your brain of like what is another possibility, of something that I could choose rather than this, and like just exploring that. Something that comes to mind for me is I remember I made this TikTok like years ago when I was working at SpringShot, um, and I was like I had given a presentation that I like totally bombed and like I was so embarrassed and like, after the presentation, like in my mind I'm like I'm so embarrassed. These people think I'm the piece of shit, these people think I'm horrible at my job. Like, just like fear victim, like in my mind I'm like ruminating, ruminating. These people, I'm going to get fired, all of these things. And then, like I had this like big epiphany shift, I'm like these people are not thinking about me, these people are thinking about themselves. These people are in their own world. They literally do not give up. They haven't taken one second to think about that after, after the fact that that happened. You know.

Speaker 2:

So like not that, that is like a super loving thought, but I was so in that fear-based thought and I'm like, okay, well, what if another possibility exists, that maybe it's not the worst case scenario? Maybe people aren't thinking the worst of me. Maybe people are like, oh, she did actually a good job, oh, that was actually cool, I learned something from her. And it's not like I went and like I had to go act on something and like you know, go talk, talk to people and like try to fix the situation. It was just an active thought of like I'm having this thought about my performance. How would I have this thought and just sit with that one instead?

Speaker 2:

Right, and yeah, we have that, that choice with everything, of just how can we slightly shift maybe to something better, maybe it's not. You know, moving from these people totally thought I was the worst worker ever to I'm the superstar worker. But like, maybe they're like, oh, okay, maybe they're just not thinking about it, like just slightly shifting it, you know, or in any situation in your life, like, okay, you know, you maybe have a fear of not finding your, your partner, your person to marry and spend a lifetime with. Right, your mind is going to I'm going to be alone, forever victim. You know, maybe it could be not to that extent. Maybe it's well if I, you know, don't end up finding someone, I'm going to live an amazing life anyway. Right, I'm not jumping to, I'm going to deeply find my person, which obviously we want to call it in. But you know, how is there ways we can slightly shift our story to make it more something that we can believe in our mind, to get more on on board with.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's such a good point because I feel like sometimes in self-development work there is this thing of going to like the. The polar opposite is I met the most 100% ideal partner that I could ever have in my entire life. He checks every single thing off the list that I've ever thought about that I could want in someone and I'm the happiest that I could ever be.

Speaker 1:

You know like you're immediately going to that and then, you're looking at like you write that down on a piece of paper and you're looking at that like how's this going to be?

Speaker 2:

How are we going to do that?

Speaker 1:

But to your point. That is an evolution. Can you get there A hundred percent? But what if the first step was just five percent and the next step was 10%? Because I feel like this is less of a super active process going from fear to love than more of a gradual process that happens as you are on a self-discovery journey. Like this is a outcome of the work that you do, you know, versus like I don't know, like like a tool, you know, like it's not okay, I'm sitting down and meditating and you know. Then I'm getting this result. Like this is just an outcome, I feel like, of a lot of inner work. Yeah, put it. Putting in the time, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Compassion, like having more compassion and love for yourself too, like compassion for the parts of you in your childhood who had to be in a fear based state in order to survive. Like why is fear there in the first place? If we talk about that, like we're just trying to survive, like our nervous systems are just going haywire, we're just like trying to protect ourselves. So like that in itself is so loving. Oh my gosh, like the fear is coming up to protect me. Like, yeah, going, yeah, if you can go deeper on that of like why is this you know questioning it and why is that coming? Coming into my reality anyway?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it is a protection mechanism, and being able to trace that back to childhood is really powerful, and that's something that I'm working on right now and I've been I mean, I've been working on you know why? Why do I have a fear of failure? Why do I have a fear of disappointing other people, why do I have a fear of not following through on my word, or if I'm not accountable to people, then I'm not worthy. So it's such a yeah, it's such a complex thing that I think that we will all be like if this is something that you strive for, this is something that you will continue to strive for forever, like you're you're. It's kind of its own mountain.

Speaker 1:

You know, like we talk about the mountain concept, like this is a big part of of going up the mountain, of how can, if those the lower part of the mountain is those you know more dense frequencies, the things that don't feel good, like fear and shame and guilt and doubt and anger, and as you're climbing, it's like you're accessing those more light, open, abundant frequencies, like love, like gratitude, like joy, and as you start to shed the fear, which will happen through practice, like we're talking about, you start to make more room for that frequency of love.

Speaker 1:

And then, all of a sudden, you will start to notice oh wow, I'm actually thinking of this in a different way than maybe I thought about this a year ago, something that I would, you know, a conversation I would not be able to have, or an action that I would not be able to take. Or now I'm feeling totally different about that. I'm feeling like I do have the confidence, or I do have the ability to start to think about what it could look like to start my own business, because I don't feel as fear-based, like tied to x, y and z thing that I've been doing for x, y and z years so it's like you start to notice how it comes up in your life yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And if you guys are having a hard time connecting to that loving space, to kind of shift, like truly, it just takes a small intention of you know putting your hand on your heart, tapping your heart, you know, taking some intentional deep breaths, breathing through your heart space and asking for how can I be more loving, you know, in this point in my life, or how can I show up more compassionately for myself? Like just having that slight intention can really move mountains truly. So shift into love let go of that fear.

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